Condolences and Backstory
0:03 Hey YouTube, Alex here. This is a sad video that I didn't really expect to be doing, but I thought I should respond to this anyway. I just wanted to make this video sending my condolences to Mark's family. I heard that Mark actually passed away yesterday here in Dumaguete.
0:18 I thought I'd give some backstory as well to my relationship with Mark. Before I get into that, I just want everybody to keep Jen, his wife, and son Rogan in your thoughts because I know they're going through a very difficult time with grieving and mourning the loss of Mark. It's not an easy subject to cover, but I thought I'd give some backstory.
Relationship with Mark Thornton
0:43 Let me go ahead and get into the backstory. I had become familiar with Mark over the course of the pandemic and had watched his channel over part of it. He had moved here to the Philippines, I think in 2019, is when he moved here. A couple years later, I did a video interview with him. Actually, he interviewed me while I was living in Peru, and we had a great conversation.
1:12 He was really easy to talk to. I was enjoying his channel a lot, watching a lot of his interviews. Of course, through his interviews, I became familiar with several of my friends here in Dumaguete who I am friends with to this day. Fast forward a couple of years, and I realized I'd be coming to Dumaguete. I reached out to Mark and initially had planned to meet up with Mark.
1:36 Then I got here to do meet and became familiar with some of his ongoing legal issues. I'm not here to slander Mark. I'm not here to speak ill of somebody who's recently passed, but I thought that I should explain that because I'm sure some of you were anticipating that I would sit down and chat with Mark. Unfortunately, that is no longer possible, and I do regret that it's no longer possible.
Mark's Polarizing Nature
1:58 I was hoping that that situation would come to a resolution and that I'd be able to sit down with him and we could have a decent conversation. That's no longer possible. And, you know, it is tragic. Mark always came across to me in some ways as a tragic figure. I know he was polarizing for a lot of people; a lot of people really had strong feelings about Mark one way or the other.
2:24 In some ways, he helped me to get my start. He helped me to grow my channel on YouTube and to become more familiar with his audience. At the time of his passing, I think that he wasn't thrilled toward me because of my concerns about some of the ongoing legal issues. I'm pretty risk-averse, but anyway, I didn't expect for things to end this way.
Health Issues and Life's Fragility
2:49 I knew that Mark had had a history of health issues, of cardiovascular issues. I thought that the low-stress lifestyle was going to give him more time and that, you know, they'd resolve the issues and that would be cleared up and he would continue to go on living his life here in the Philippines. It is really tragic.
3:12 It's a reminder, I think, to all of us to let the people that you care about know that you care about them. People are fragile. Life is short in many ways, especially as people get older. There's no way to tell when their time is up.
Support for Family and Holiday Season
3:29 Do I think Mark was the perfect person? No, I don't think so. I don't think any of us are perfect. I do think that if time would have kept rolling forward, his issues would have been resolved and that we would have sorted things out and that I would have gone on his channel. But like I said, that's no longer possible.
3:49 I'm sure that there's a GoFundMe in the works to help cover ongoing expenses related to his healthcare and funeral expenses. When you see one that is official and is confirmed to be official, I suggest reaching out and trying to contribute if that's something that you feel comfortable with doing. If that's something that you want to do, I know with this being the holiday season, I'm sure a lot of people are tapped out of cash.
4:13 I know the economy in the US is not doing so well, but if you benefited from his content, if you benefited from his channel, then I'm sure the support will be greatly appreciated. I know also that Jen is now in the position of being a single mom, and that tends to not be an easy life, especially here in the Philippines. I imagine she probably has some level of support from some of Mark's friends in trying to sort out how to proceed and how to communicate with the proper authorities back in the US, notify the embassy, that kind of thing.
4:47 It's just so tragic that we've lost him days before Christmas. We're less than a week away from Christmas, and I knew people that had passed away around Christmas always thought it was especially hard for people who lose somebody around Christmas time because it's supposed to be a happy time of year. It's supposed to be a break from the problems of this world.
Mark's Life Story and Reinvention
5:09 Yeah, I mean, I think his son's less than one year old, so it's just really tragic all around. In the interview that we did, Mark asked me about my time in Peru. We talked about Burning Man, and I figured I'd eventually sit down with him in person. That time never came, and it's unfortunate.
5:26 I always thought Mark represented kind of a tragic figure in American history in the sense that he had gone bankrupt, he'd gotten divorced, he had had his ex-wife moved back to Europe, essentially lost everything. And I get it. I know people will talk about personal responsibility, and I'm not saying there wasn't a strong element of that. He was, to me, representative of how things can go wrong.
5:52 He was to me representative of how things can go wrong and a person who tried to reinvent themselves in a way that many Americans are not willing to do. And more so back then, I think as time progresses, more and more people are willing to leave the United States. But five years ago, it seemed like a riskier bet, and it seemed like it was a more cavalier thing to do.
Mark's Interview Style and Content
6:14 I first heard about the situation about a week ago, and I saw it start to pop up in comment sections, 'Hey, Mark had a major health event.' Mark had a way of taking very normal people, people that you might pass on the road or the grocery store, and really bringing a lot of interesting information out of them. It was really fascinating to me.
6:43 People that seemed to be quite relatable had these wild life stories and experiences, and I credit Mark a lot for having the creativity and open-mindedness to tell these stories. Mark actually took down the interview that we did. I think that he didn't like that I was a bit cautious and wanted to wait out the ongoing legal issues that he was dealing with at the time of his passing.
7:09 At the time of his passing, I did see him a couple of times in town, but we never did end up having a conversation. I did see him at Robinson's and then also in the boulevard a few times, but I just wanted to keep my distance until some kind of resolution was reached. I remember that when he interviewed me when I was living in Peru, that I was pretty nervous; it was my first time being on a platform of that size.
7:35 And it is unfortunate they took that interview down. I don't know if he just made it private, I don't know if it's still on his channel, but it's just not there or if he just deleted it, but that interview is no longer accessible on his channel. It did make me happy to see him get picked up by Legion of Men. I know that that boost, I'm sure, helped him to go out on a positive note.
Resilience and YouTube Trolls
7:58 That he got some of the notoriety or some of the recognition that he worked a long time to attain. I know a lot of people think that doing YouTube is easy, and I thought so too until I started doing it more and more myself. Mark had a lot of resilience to get through a lot of the hate that he got over the years. I mean, he really has been targeted a lot by different kinds of trolls.
8:29 And I never understood why they had it out for him specifically, more so than maybe any other vlogger here in Dumaguete. We did bond over the fact that he had lived in Kentucky for many years, just as I had lived in the neighboring state of Tennessee, and that was one way in which we had connected.
Rest in Peace
8:49 I know that for a lot of these guys having children in Agape relationships, they perceive of it as a do-over for them and a chance for them to have a fresh start. Anyway, I just wanted to say rest in peace, Mark. My condolences go out to Mark's family. I'm sure you will all be getting more updates from other YouTubers in the coming weeks.
9:12 It's unfortunate that I never got to meet Mark in person, but that's just the way things went.