for hey everybody Welcome to the live stream just wrapped up a conversation with unfriendly stoic and Tony our first channel member and also I think Christopher might have been on there as well uh so we had a great
discussion over on Discord feel free to join the Discord the link to the Discord is in the description below it's a great opportunity for us to communicate outside of our normal um our normal discussions we had a great
discussion talking about the tradeoffs that come with long-term travel with living overseas and some of the things that I think a lot of people don't talk about because you know some vloggers or some channels they're trying to sell
the dream they're trying to um they're trying to present you with this idealized image and I I don't like to like I feel like the most the most accurate way to talk about these things is to be balanced
about it and to try to accurately assess what's going on and not just uh sell you the dream but then also not make just a complaining video because I think sometimes things go one way or the opposite way
where it's like ah this is the worst decision ever or oh I can't stand this or that uh and then others you know they're only talking about the upside so it was a really great conversation that we got
into um there are you know there are some challenges uh with this lifestyle and I definitely experienced some of them uh but yeah in Vietnam you know kind of what I wanted to get into Vietnam has grown so
much on me I had this click moment today where I got it I was struggling to understand it I haven't really been to Mainland China for example uh and there's things that were bugging me about being in Vietnam
that I understand now that no longer bug me so an example of this would be people in Vietnam due to population density there's a different idea of personal space so uh in the United States where I'm from we're
used to having a lot of space in between us if somebody gets too close to you people are going to get suspicious or skeptical they're going to be concerned like what are you doing why are you um you
know why are you getting oh hey what's up Gerard good to see you um it's uh yeah so I'm just talking a bit about Vietnam uh but yeah now you know today it finally clicked it's okay to be
close to other people uh it doesn't necessarily mean something bad is going to happen in the US especially in the larger cities you're concerned about conflict potentially somebody trying to reach in your pocket uh and take your wallet
or something like that uh and I'm not I'm not being dismissive of that that can be an issue in some areas but um yeah it just kind of clicked me hey you know that's just the way traffic is
people are keeping an eye out that's why a lot of people do go more slowly you notice people being able to cross traffic you kind of just push your way through it took me a long time to adjust
to that and it's something that I'm understanding now I'm adapted to now um and yeah it's just it's something I had to adjust to another thing that's been super helpful for me in Vietnam is getting to know uh
other people like go becoming a regular at certain U restaurants where people are really warming up to me and it's I'm also having to come to terms with the history like some people are wondering uh you know about
why things the way they are and from what I've heard some of it is to prevent another instance or situation of colonialism right because there's tragic history there in Vietnam of colonization the negative impacts of that and so
I'm just getting it it all kind of clicked for me today and now I really like Vietnam the things that were I didn't understand karaoke um traffic um I I understand now and I I like it a lot
it's um it all kind of came together for me I hate that it's happening kind of last minute where one week from tonight actually uh from right now um I'll be flying to the Philippines and so uh I'll
be going to the Philippines one week from today and you know I kind of wish had more time here but I booked the flight and it's the upside of that is that I'll be able to come back here
to Vietnam in the future I like it a lot I've finally gotten it I get it now it's taken me more time because I was expecting like in Thailand the second you get off the plane the whole experience
is set up for you to enjoy yourself you you know you exit you go through the airport there's brightly lit beautiful neon signs and several different languages so if you speak Mandarin you're GNA see Mandarin signage if you
speak English you're gonna see English signage you have the ability to pick up a SIM card in the airport you've got if you land in Bangkok you've got the MRT system where you can take it to the city
center or you can catch a taxi you've got nice Wi-Fi at the airport not to say that Vietnam doesn't have these things but uh everything is just you set up for ease right um here tourism is not I
think it's around 2% of the Vietnamese economy and while they want to uh increase the tourism they are still trying to sort out how they want that to look uh and so I had to adjust to not being
in a place where you are you are experiencing a place that is oriented toward tourism and so much so that like it's hard to discern between the tourism bubble and the real world um Vietnam doesn't seem to have
the tourism bubble near to the same extent such that when you get off the plane you're interacting with real Vietnam uh so yeah I found like my favorite restaurant they're so kind to me they're so sweet like I
understand why Vietnamese people can initially have some skepticism of foreigners right because every time in the past with the colonization they've had foreigners trying to do horrible things um so I'm I'm understanding that now I've I get it
it's uh it all kind of clicked today I just wanted to get that out of the way uh Gerard says you're going to miss the big city traffic so yeah I'm to Dag Getti in the Philippines first uh
dumag Getti Metro population it's probably much smaller than D yeah so like 100 34,000 people so it's going to be significantly smaller than dang and I'm actually staying down in beong which is between dawin the kind of resort
dive Resort or Beach area and then dumag Getti proper but it should be quite quiet down there quite quiet should be pretty quiet down there really close to the beach I'm going to be able to spend some time
in the water swimming which I really am looking forward to um samuro hi a welcome welcome samro and hey great to see you K Tony always good to catch up with you I really appreciate the message uh have
samaro says have you ever woken up and said really loudly Good morning Vietnam no I never I never have said that it's a film okay so I need oh in Robin Williams I am a fan of Robin Williams
films I I watched of course Mrs dfire his classic comedy but I'll take a look at it this uh I've got a lot of content to catch up on because I just never really was aware of all the
content surrounding Vietnam was admittedly a bit of a I don't know if you'd say if I'd say sore spot but a difficult situation in my family so my grandfather maternal grandfather mother's uh father served in the Vietnam War
and uh you know is he went through a lot he definitely came back with PTSD uh my mom was deeply disapproving of his service in the Vietnam War so it was a point of contention between her and him
and so I never really I never really looked into it I never really wanted to learn about it I never really felt that it was some I it didn't feel like something that I need to go uncover anything
about because it was going to be it was going to be I don't know if a sore subject but like painful right and so there's been times in my life where I've tried to tried to avoid pain or
tried to avoid these difficult situations and I'm trying to be better about that and just tackle those things that was something that was great about sales is that if you want to develop a thick skin working in sales
definitely did it for me like great suu says great film yeah I'll definitely check it out thank you for the suggestions samro how's everybody's weekend doing wow we've got nine people on here I need to do these on
Saturdays more often anybody have any weekend plans hey solo how are you doing uh I'm not sure where you are in the world if you're in North America or if you are in Europe or if you are in
Asia it's Saturday night here in Vietnam and I went out and had dinner at my favorite restaurant here in tanang it's uh it's a lively night people are getting together I riding through the city uh pass by people
doing karaoke which is always kind of f and fun to see people getting together with their neighbors I'm more and more noticing the community aspect of uh of Vietnam that I I noticed before but it's like compounding where
I see more and more people getting together suaro says my girlfriend just left for Greece so I'm home alone for the next month no major plans just chilling what's um what's uh home for you samaro if you don't
mind sharing I understand samro if you uh you know if you're not comfortable sharing where home is gree sounds amazing one of my favorite YouTubers Gabriel traveler he says he often talks about how uh Greece is his favorite
country and some of my favorite videos of Gabriel's have been in the Greek Islands and he's done some Athens content as well I don't know he's probably done something on thesaloniki I think that's how you pronounce it thesaloniki
Greece's Second City which is interesting to me at some point it may be when I get my next role where I have some disposable income to H go to Greece because it seems to lend itself more to like
one or two week trips where with Asia I feel that you know I'm going um I'm going Halfway Around The World I'm spending probably two weeks in each Direction uh de getting over jet lag right usually takes me
one day per one hour time zone differ so if I'm going 12 hours then it's going to be around 12 days for me to fully adjust and that's each Direction so with Asia I like to go at least
one month uh but with grease you know it's a place you know maybe eight eight days or so I could adjust and so it won't be ideal but um usually by the end of that 10 days two weeks
I'll uh I'll get over the jet lag and then have to go backwards on it but a little bit better coming from California it would be several hours less if I were coming from the East Coast it would
take several days less to adjust coming from the East Coast I'm envious of my New Yorker friends that go to Europe um Tony says and you just started uh streaming in another half hour you might have 20 to
25 people watching the Stream uh yeah thank you Tony I appreciate that it's um I need to try to do more of these on Saturday normally I teach English on Sunday night but uh you know it's with teaching
English you tend to repeat and cycle through the same topics like where are you from what do you like to eat uh what's your life like you have some lessons as well you can use that feel like riding
the same amusement park ride over and over again if I'm being honest no disrespect to the students 90% of them are wonderful people earnestly trying to improve their English skills and I have some regulars one from Turkey one
from Brazil that are really lovely people that I would talk to any day of the week they're just enjoyable they're fun we have a great Rapport uh but it's so it's so nice to be able to hop on
here with you guys and potentially gals as well uh and just have a Meandering kind of conversation ation or discussion Gerard says I'm being sarcastic about the traffic I know okay Gerard um yeah I mean they they got
their own Dynamic and I'm starting to I'm starting to see the people here make it work I uh you know knock on uh whatever this table is made out of haven't seen any collisions which is very fortunate because
those are tragic I saw some of those in Thailand and U it's something we never ever want to experience HOSA HOSA says watching you UK oh very cool UK beautiful country I visited UK for the first time about
a year and a half ago and I loved it I liked it more than I expected like whenever I'm talking to people from the UK they tend to critique the weather which can be IR Rani and cloudy but
uh you know on the other hand growing up I'd also I would always listen to these streams of or replays of raves right so they do these Raves at in Brixton typically in these warehouses and so somebody would
record it or or the DJ would record it and put it up online and that was kind of my initial interaction with the UK and then also one of my buddies growing up down the street his family is
uh all the way back you know you go far enough back in US history they came to us from England he's got so he's 90% English 10% Spanish um it's uh he's an interesting guy I miss him for
sure um Cal solo transient Cali here oh very cool California represent excellent um yeah I lived in in California for several years and I'd love to go back um I have an interview I had well the first stage
of a the interview process with a bus another business based in around San Francisco and hope to um hope to move forward with them they're doing some interesting stuff in the fintech space which uh I I really like
working in that space um Samar Ro says I'm in England uh this that is where my girlfriend is from talone okay very cool yeah it seems like a more manageable City based on my research samaru compared to Athens
which seems like just really big and really busy I watched some of JP and Amelia's Vlogs on Athens and I don't think maybe they just did one Vlog on Athens but it does seem like a really big city
um Tony says Gabriel traveler was probably one of the first bloggers I watched a lot of people um so uh so let's see um one of the uh first travel bloggers I watched um yeah so Gabriel traveler something
that I like about Gabriel is a lot of people call him like the OG vlogger I like Gabriel traveler a lot because he has this it reminds me almost like if Hunter S Thompson was a vlogger setting aside
some of the wild partying that Hunter S Thompson was known for this stream of Consciousness where you feel like you're watching The Experience through Gabriel's eyes as opposed to having kind of a cultivated experience and you're in vacation
mode and you see the beautiful beach and you go to the restaurant and you um he's just got this lowkey Vlog like style of vlogging that I really like and I like too that he's willing to go to
some places that particularly in India that are not the hippest place you know not the uh Portugal which I love Portugal but Portugal is very popular right now nothing wrong with that but it's definitely I I can appreciate
that he's willing to go through some of the places that would be ascribed to somewhat of a hardship right when he went to Bangladesh I was watching that Vlog and thinking man he's got uh you know he's got
a lot of a lot of patience to to go there and to Vlog from there um and Gabriel traveler also Tony inspired me a lot uh just because he you know he was one of the first vloggers that
went off the beaten path I started watching him and wal Walter's world around the same time and Walter's world uh focuses on Europe and to a lesser extent Latin America and also the US and these are awesome like
I I'm particularly a fan of Latin America out of those three but um you know he's got to have a different sort of setup because he's taking a family where Gabriel traveler is like hey I'm solar traveling so
I can uh squeeze into those places that may not be as familyfriendly for traveling for different reasons Logistics um lack of development um safety right so yeah huge fan of Gabriel traveler I almost cross paths with him a
few times so when I was living in Berkeley California he a couple of times stayed in Berkeley like around the corner from my apartment uh but we just didn't meet on the street and he was just there for
a day and so uh and I I reached on the comment section as well and I didn't understand at the time but like when you get a a Channel of that size around that time he was probably around
400,000 subscribers maybe 450 you've got people wanting to meet you constantly um all over the world everywhere he probably gets recognized depending on where he goes like if he's in a place like Thailand with tons of international Travelers
he's probably getting recognized at times or Europe that also gets lots and lots of Travelers um sumaru says many to choose from Mainland also has nice place but Island life is unbeatable yeah Island life looks ideal from the
stuff that he's shown and talked about as well just exploring these Villages um the weather too like that's one of those things that after I lived in California it was really hard for me to leave California because you
get accustomed to this predictable repetitive weather where it's you're thinking what do I want to do I can do anything any day of the week we're not going to have monsoon season we're not going to have rainy season
we're not going to need to really I know they they do have a kind of a rainy season but if you pick the right time of year you're talking about like you could get months without rain right that's
what I experienced in California and so that's what I think is part of the advantage of gree travel is that you're uh you know you're able at least for my research you're able to really immerse yourself there and
to have that free form kind of experience where you feel like I can do [Music] um you I can do whatever I want and whatever order I want uh hosia hosia says slow travel Raves house music is far
better in Berlin I'll take that into account hosia um yeah Berlin seems super cool haven't been there yet but definitely on the list it's uh seems like it's got a lot of interesting uh it seems like it's got
an interesting interesting scene there for sure this one woman that I was interested in when I was younger she um she was a huge fan of Berlin so she did her study abroad in Berlin and then she like
whenever she gets extra money together extra time off work um that's her favorite city like even though she's an American lives in the US then she feels like Berlin is where it's at that it's got this cultural this
cultural scene you've got the museum scene you've got the cafe scene it's got some people say hipster Vibe perhaps like parts of Brooklyn um Tony says wait you teach uh English I didn't know that I thought you weren't
too interested in teaching English so I have mixed feelings about teaching English I do it one day per week just to uh what's the word just to make like a little bit of money it's you know it's not
something that uh is not so much money that it makes a big difference um it's probably arguably it would be better for me to work on some other things but you know Tony in our conversation we had earlier
you talked about wanting to maintain a connection that you've considered doing something similar not because uh it's um not because you would need it right because you talked about your uh your journey but because you wanted to maintain
that connection and I think that was part of it for me is that when I I started doing it uh one night a week so I just do it on Sunday night in changai because I felt like I'm
I'm not going to changai University I don't really like I don't know how I feel about hanging out in coffee shops um like I don't know if I'm the type to just cold approach people in coffee shops there's
also like changmai does have uh some of that I don't know if you'd say grifter crowd but like just you know the hustle bro kind of culture um yeah so it's uh it's in it's on uh it's online
so it's like on online platform I use uh camp but I I like I said I only do it one night per week and some weeks I skip like next weekend um you know when I'm in dag Getti
I'll probably skip because I'll probably be pretty tired Sunday uh because I I fly to do MTI at I get there around 6: am and I've got a three-hour layover uh in Manila yeah cam is not a great
platform um it's not not it's not something I would rely on to do full-time but I was I was in changmai and you know changmai hasn't in some ways hasn't recovered from uh the pandemic so my first time
in shangai was in 2018 it was super vibrant City all kinds of um yeah yeah exactly so it's not not like a formal English teaching um but yeah you know pre pandemic like changai was really vibrant I mean
like we would go out to these this club and we'd meet up with people and we'd go over to friends apartments and my more recent stent in shangai there was a lot less of that um quite a few
of the people that were there in 2018 have moved on many have moved back home some have moved to other destinations um some have had falling out with mutual friends not myself but our mutual friend uh who introduced
us you know they may have had a falling out and so it feels a little bit less connected like there were I was um I was living near changmai University and there's I guess you call it a bar
a new bar that they built they several new buildings were built but they built this new kind of bar it would just be totally empty you walk by there Saturday night Friday night Saturday night they'd be playing music
um it seemed like it it looked cool if folks showed up um but yeah I think I I dealt with that like wanting to have you know something to contribute also something to maybe try to pad my resume
with a little bit um I guess I'm getting I'm feeling a bit self-conscious about the the gap on my resume um but the platform itself is it's kind of annoying like I don't know Camp um they just use
Ai and software to solve a lot of things that um need the human touch and they're not very forgiving either um I have looked at some other platforms but it's I don't know it just uh I I the
thing that I liked a lot about sales and this is something that I like about YouTube as well is the amount of variety like it feels like I mean I've been sh shocked I've been doing these streams for
the last few weeks every two to three days I've been shocked that we still have interesting stuff to talk about if I'm being totally honest I thought by this point we would have run out of uh conversation points
we would have run out of things to talk about about and it seems like the more we have these conversations the more things that we uncover to discuss of course there's things happening in real time that add a
lot to these conversations but um yeah that's that's the that's a little bit of the struggle with English but there is the other side of which is it's very rewarding right if we're able if you're able to help
somebody through English teaching to advance their career to uh to potentially move to another country to pass a certain examination then it's uh it's really an excellent thing hosia hosia says how you're going to move your dependency on
the USA and travel permanently so the secret truth is hos I'll never be able to uh remove my dependency on the USA so uh my long-term goal is the Financial Independence retire early situation where I'm financially independent through
investment income I have dividend paying stocks that's my preference of course this isn't invest uh this is not investment advice but all my dividend paying stocks or almost all of them except for maybe a few like there's one
in Canada that I'm interested in um I'm gonna skip these ads I they I've got to swap to more conservative uh option when it comes to ads because they I need I'd like some ads just for change to
you know get a cup of coffee but I don't want it to be overloading and annoying um so so yeah back to what I was saying hosia as far as dependence on the US so having owning us Securities
getting dividend payments from US Stocks means I'll be dependent on the US economy for the rest of my life and uh many countries are like when you know some people say when the US has a cold the of
the world has a flu in terms of the economy uh so the US economy when they started raising interest rates it started breaking other economies like Pakistan I think Sri Lanka as well immediately started having like really quickly
started having major Financial Pro uh financial crisis um and you're seeing this in other countries as well that basically the US for better for worse has an outsized impact on the global economy it's still something like 12 or
14% of the global economy so being an American then I'm somewhat averse to investing outside of the US with like I said a few very small exceptions that are not super relevant to to this point so yeah even
when I become financially independent I'll never be able to fully Escape that dependence on the US I also don't foresee myself ever giving up my US pass support uh it's it's over in my backpack right now but I
don't foresee anywhere anytime in the near future anyway where it would make sense for me to give that up I've had even people in my personal life ask me that not as a kind of argument but just like
hey does it make sense for you do you think you'll get to that point I would have to start a a company and sell it for like hundreds of millions of dollars for the tax implications to be worthwhile
to pursue like say a citizenship in Singapore or or um maybe some kind of obscure European country or Caribbean island I think for most people who are citizens of Western democracies then it makes sense to maintain your passport
it's a great backup plan you know if something happens and I need to go back home then I yeah I so yeah so for what it's worth like I uh you know I I feel that I'll always be
dependent now you may be asking asking how am I going to get rid of the financial side where I can travel long term and that's through investing I'm currently in the process I've been interviewing for the last really
I've been interviewing for the last six or eight months haven't got an offer but I haven't been pressed for it either I'm in a situation where I spend far less in this part of the world than I would
back home and in the interviews I can be far less desperate so when you're back home in an expensive country and you're basically uh setting fire to your money because it's so expensive you're going to be desperate in
your interviews you're going to be I mean I know because i' I've been there I've done dozens of job interviews where they can sense that desperation they know hey this guy really for whatever reason doesn't have the confidence
in himself that he's going to be able to sort out whatever he's got going on whereas when I come from a place of calm and like you can hire me or not hire me I don't really care either
way it's paradoxical but that's been more likely to get me lucrative opportunities doesn't make any sense you well it does make sense but you'd think that somebody that was hungrier and like more I want this job would be
more appealing but it's almost kind of like dating where at times you have more success in dating when you act like yeah we can date or not date I've got options that kind of attitude I found is very
productive and so then let's say I get back into a role in the US it's just living below my means I'm gotten really good at that just living on the super cheap my money goes so much further outside
the US it's not as hard for me to do um I've got different tricks up my sleeve like living in studio apartments um limiting you know getting takeout um limiting vacations like you know there's a lot of different
ways us is wonderful in that regard and I think all the Western democracies um have that to some extent where if you're able to moderate your expenses then you can really get ahead financially and so then when once
I get to the point where I'm thinking like maybe 1,500 per month uh maybe 2,000 per month that's kind of a rough idea of where I'm thinking then I can leave and then I'm not Reliant upon um external
sources as much right because that's that's where I think it can get kind of sketchy also if I put in that time that should move me pretty close to or at uh a time when I can draw Social
Security I'm guaranteed basically if you work 10 years in the US you're going to get Social Security assuming you have uh 10 years of qualifying quarters I think you got to make at least $2,000 in a uh fiscal
quarter which is I mean that's minimum wage in many states for like a month so you know it it um not not hard to to do um as you can tell by the amount of expats trying to live
on Social Security um hosia hosia I like Balden bankrupt and he's very successful according to Social blade yeah he's got some interesting Vlogs I like his uh his blog in Bolivia that was a really interesting one Tony and
I have talked a lot about our our respective visits to Peru and I think Bolivia has some overlap with that kind of andian Highland culture now of course he does go to um some what some people would describe
as sketchier places but uh yeah I think it's I think it's definitely interesting up there um SRO say oh uh for Tony says for people in the chat hit the like button subscribe or take out a membership to
help grow the unique channel it's very affordable yes and actually I'm so glad you brought that up Tony one of the things that I'm working on right now I've actually already got my first video is that I'm going
to try to do unique content um as long as I'm on this trip and ideally into the future because I can reflect on my experiences abroad even if I'm back home I can still do that uh putting out
content that I would describe is to too spicy for the general public um topics that may be controversial and I think that that that would help to make Channel membership worthwhile is that you get access to content that
is exclusive to channel members um you may not feel I don't it's um that that's kind of the way I feel like I'm I'm tending to go I'll probably you know depending on where the channel goes if it
gets to uh you know a large enough membership base doing things like exclusive members only streams uh may eventually move the Discord uh or create a Discord for members but uh something where like I'm able to have that
um that type of dialogue right where we're able to to focus more on a small group setting because that's super powerful um sometimes when you're when your audience grows to a certain point you some people feel constricted by
their Their audience like I can't make I can't push the envelope I can't talk about spicy stuff I don't want to uh rub people the wrong way and not even from the perspective of financial but just like how
can I make stuff that's valuable to people if I have a smaller group that I'm putting out uh special content for them I can get direct feedback like hey this was good hey this was not good maybe expand
upon this this maybe a little less time to so getting into that uh that's where I think it can be really helpful to my shoulder I did a hard workout before I went and had dinner and my shoulder
definitely feeling it a little bit um I did the shoulder press uh shoulder workout and did some pole exercises as well but it feels a little bit like I maybe pushed it too hard probably should have warmed up
a bit more too um front dealt on the right side um SoMo says you should write a book you are pretty glued in on a lot of subjects that's a good idea and that's something that I've put off
for way too long just making excuses um and also having too many a book ideas like I've thought about probably four or five different ideas where I'm thinking that would be a good book that would be a good
book that would be a good book but I need just sit down and do it um yeah thank you for the prompting on that it's it's also trying to figure out the one that's most beneficial like if I
do a book on Thailand right but some of my audience is not considering living in Thailand you know it's there's limited there's limited value in that right but if I do something too generic or too generalized it's like
okay well I could have just read Lonely Planet so trying to find something that's really unique talking about things body else is talking about uh and then yeah then just sitting down and doing it um one thing that
I would like to start working on is I've been thinking about uh taking the GMAT test right and so that's something where now I'm thinking okay maybe for the next three or four months I'm Monday through Friday I'm
just trying to grind out GMAT prep um which is difficult right GMAT is the basically it's a test people take to before they apply to Masters in Business Administration programs but also I looked at going back to school
for it and my almma moer uh for their Master's in IT program if you don't have an IT undergrad they want you to do the GMAT so that's where it's starting to look like the GMAT is the next
step that I need to take it is uh the score is very important if you score high enough then it's one can offset a week GPA my first time around I didn't have a grade GPA when I went
back to college had a grade GPA but um I need to excuse you know I need to Bas basically provide an explanation why I didn't do great my first time around in college and then also it can factor
into scholarships so if I want to uh help have assistance right have some scholarship money then scoring high on the GMAT will make a big difference there so it's like I I'm much more always feeling short on time
than I am on options and uh maybe it could just be my agreeable nature um sometimes agreeable people just don't know what they want um yeah I hope that helps uh let's see is your English class in person
or on Zoom um kemy kemy is just informal practicing of English with dropin yeah something like that Tony uh hi Ed uh oh Eastern dreamer okay um yeah sometimes I feel like I should change the name because Ed
is I'm G to skip the ads here Ed is a unfortunate acronym I I think you know there's there's some humor in that Tony says when I was in Mexico City I met an elderly 80 plus us expat
who had been making a living private English teaching by Cold approaching people in coffee shops didn't look like a very appealing way to make a living no you know it that sounds uh that sounds kind of stressful uh
with sales like I'm I'm used to cold approaching but it's uh I don't know it's something that it just kind of got worn out on like I my tolerance for rejection somehow in some ways went down and it
uh especially for services like that right I mean it's one thing if I'm getting rejected for offering them uh some kind of multi-million dollar Financial software okay most people are not going to just sign up yeah I'm ready
to drop you know I'm ready to write a check for uh seven figures or eight figures um but when it comes to smaller lessons like that it's like limited upside um and potentially more downside right if you I
don't know maybe you end up asking the wrong person who's connected to people that are concerned about I don't know I just I I guess I'm overly cautious once been once bitten and twice shy these days but if
you know if you've got somebody feeding you lessons or something and you've got the one area where I think it could be enjoyable is let's say you're teaching like you've got 10 doctors in a classroom or you've got
10 University professors in a classroom or you've got a select group of people that uh they've already got a baseline level of English where they're already communicating at say a high school graduate level and they want to take
it up to a college level that's where I think it could be interesting but it's still something where I don't know it just um I think it's tough to have those conversations on repeat I mentioned a bit earlier
but the the challenge with English you really have to look at the more rewarding side of it helping people and I feel less at the content until you build up regulars but even then I it's it's just uh
it's harder than what it's made out to be you know I think some people are like oh if you're not at your fire number if you're a young person just moved to Southeast Asia uh you can you could
just teach English but it's uh you know I think there's it's not it's not necessarily a career in the way that it's made out to be I know some people have told me well yeah you can go to
Hong Kong or you can go to China or you can go to Saudi Arabia but uh I think you know a lot of people want to pursue an expat lifestyle their preferences or Latin America or southeast Asia also
Western Europe is super popular I think some places are just not as much on the radar as others and it would be you know it be a lifestyle uh it wouldn't be a it wouldn't be a job that
they were pursuing for a certain lifestyle um Gerard Palmer how do you suggest for one to learn the Thai language great question Gerard I'd recommend and I'm gonna go ahead and throw their name in the chat Gerard I
recommend reaching out to triaa language school that's how I got my 11mon uh Thailand Visa they have thae lessons via zoom two two days a week two or I think two days a week three hours each day and
um they can provide you with a visa to stay in Thailand for the duration of the language courses but then also they have great uh they have great instructors they're based in ratat Tui ratou I'm still I still
struggle with the H because in English the H is not silent and in Tai sometimes it is uh sometimes it's not but yeah I check out triaa Language School Gerard they um oh yeah did you say how much
triaa costs sorry I missed so triaa they charged me 30,000 bot um see 30 for the cost of lessons Plus 2,000 was it 4,000 bot per extension uh 2 to 4K [Music] 2 bot per extension every 3 months
it works out like uh Michael it roughly works works out to about $100 per month $100 US per month and um on top of that your transportation costs so triaa is based in Bangkok I signed up with them
in Bangkok I chose to travel around Thailand and continue my classes online I also spent time in changmai and so I would fly back every three months so I started off how I did that was I started off
in Bangkok to start the visa after um after I got the ball rolling I went down to Patia for a month I'd never been to Patia before patio wasn't really my jam so after that then I uh this
was so I spent the month last August I spent uh the month of August in Patia then I uh took a bus back up to Bangkok flew to changai I lived in changai for six months from September to
March so I had my extension in I had two extensions in when I was living in changai one was in October I had to fly back to Bangkok I came back to Bangkok for like a long weekend went
to immigration extended my Visa um you have to swing by the school and uh and then uh and then I did the second extension in January so I flew back to to to Bangkok in January for long weekends
sorry burping um kind of gross uh for a long weekend and then uh and then came back down no then I flew to Hai which was in the south of Thailand then went to Krabby Krabby after KB I
came to B back to Bangkok and extended my Visa for the final time that was in May um hope that helps Michael and Gerard uh so unfriendly stoic I was thinking about getting the it certification I'm not familiar
with that certification I the it I'll have to look that up stoic information technology engineers examination that looks really interesting yeah I'm going to read about this thank you so much for mentioning it stoic that's super helpful uh
maau streets de maau hi folks good to see you welcome to the stream maau streets Michael says yeah Ed is somewhat unfortunate but that's okay it's not a big deal okay I'm glad to hear that Michael um unfriendly
stoic you can work in the same field in Asia that you did in the states so there's limited opportunities with software sales so uh stoic I primarily worked in software sales and it's uh you know the market is
not quite to the same extent that it is in the States you can do it I'd probably need to look at and gmm's not on here but I know he works in Bangkok and I don't think he's a
teacher I think he's got more of a corporate type of a job but you need to probably be in Singapore and in Singapore it's more of a I would say traditional career move than it is kind of a
lifestyle I'm sure some people would love the lifestyle there but it felt I've been to Singapore about five years ago and it felt just uh you know quite busy and developed and it is enjoyable like Singapore gorgeous country
very safe delicious food uh very much like great um great public transportation easy to get around but it's a place that you're going to have to work a lot right because people paying those High salaries they have high
expectations for you to be um you know producing a lot and so you're not necessarily focused on lifestyle as much for me which lifestyle is quite important it's um it's a major part of why I like to live
in Asia um now you know if I was able to get into a place like inad which is a French University but they've got an outpost in Singapore stoic that would probably open up a lot of doors I
actually um had I actually you could say worked with but I had some engagements with this um I'll throw his uh well I don't know if I I don't want to throw his he's a billionaire um based in
Latin America and he actually did his MBA at ncad in Singapore which I thought was really interesting and I thought okay if this guy can build this massive business um you know with his education that he got in
Singapore even though he's a Latin American man then there's got to be something there that they're that International they're that well rown that he could go anywhere probably in North America but he chose to do it in Asia
definitely speaks a lot to the quality of the opportunities there I think he I don't think he did it in France I think he did do it at the single location I can go and double check on his
LinkedIn though uh yeah Gerard shared the address for the uh of Triple A Michael says is that Vis say something uh you can do once you you are there or did you have to apply before you came to
Thailand uh either one Michael I think that you can um some language schools allow you to do it outside of Thailand some prefer you to do it in some uh say that it's cheaper to do it outside some
charge more once you're inside I think that there may be some fees that they have to uh cover to transfer you from a tourist visa so I came in on a tourist visa I had to transposed to an
education Visa so that's where some of the extra fees come in I recommend reaching out before you come to Thailand because you may find that they offer some kind of discount or there's some kind of Advantage uh where
you're able to come in and start straight away I had to pay for a tourist Vista extension which added on to my cost not I think it was like 2,000 bot uh which isn't you know major like 60
bucks but you know 60 bucks could go towards something else like having some delicious Thai food or um maybe you know going out on a date or something like that so I'd reach out beforehand and just run down
with them they have great English so if you have any concerns or questions they have really talented English speakers and they'll be able to communicate with you very well I feel like I've sent I feel like I should
be asking them if they're open to sharing some royalties with me because I know I've sent several people their way uh I did a video on them and um they also offer six months Michael so if that's something
you're interested in now some people have said uh do the tourist visa for two months extend for one month and then come back for an extra two months you could do that without um you know without paying it's
like 18,000 bot if you want to do the six month uh maau Street have you been to Patia what was the best thing you liked about Patia uh I have been to Patia I spent a month there in
August it's not really for me the main challenge in Patia is that patio revolves around the nightlife industry and I don't have any judgment for that I think that people from around the world want to come to Thailand
for many different reasons for some of those people it's to engage in The Nightlife industry they want to go out to the bars and have fun but you know for me I it's just not my preference it's just
not my priority I come to Thailand because I know PE some people roll their eyes when I say this but I really like Thai culture I think that it's interesting I think that the Thai people are often endearing
and warm um it's it's kind of a it's just a it's just a really special place and it's a place that there's so much to see and so much to do and I'm also not a drinker so I'm
part Japanese uh for those who may not know that and so I turn red uh when I drink alcohol I turn red and if I drink enough then I'm bright red even the next day and so that's actually
a sign if you get that blush that you are allergic um so I realized that the last time I had too many which was a couple of years ago I realized after doing a little bit of research I
probably should not do it at all I have no judgment for my subscribers to do I know quite a few of my subscribers don't have that experience that allergy um so yeah Pia not necessarily my jam would I
go back you know probably I didn't make it out to the uh there's a tower there's like a wooden structure Temple I can't remember Temple let me look it up and speaking of which uh temple of one second
guys sanctuary of Truth okay so here we go sanctuary of Truth and I'm going to share my screen I should have done that earlier I been normally doing that but so sanctuary of Truth is this gorgeous wooden structure
I do want to go back to see this in person I meant to get over there but in Thailand time seems to just not work the same way another thing that I'd like to see um I'd like to
make it back to Coan and colon is really nice it's uh you take a ferry over from the port and it's a beautiful island it's you got some really nice beaches it's not nearly as crowded as you'd think
being so close to Patty for whatever reason it they're able to just disperse the tourists um it may be to that the ferry ends early like it's it's not running late night so it's the last fery runs it's
say 6:30 pm. to come back to Padia so not a place that people are going out to to party but yeah beautiful island we can uh newal Beach is the beach that I spent time at but it's gorgeous
and I didn't see the monkeys I didn't know okay that photo was taken four years ago but it's um oh no uh thank you for letting me know maau streets um please let me know when it pops back
on if uh if you guys can see it um but colon is gorgeous I mean it doesn't it feels like just a beautiful beautiful Thai Island there's I did want to check out I know greeny travels I watch
greeny's videos he's a retired Detective from Detroit and he lives in Banger so he lives down here um which is south of Padia and he likes it it's chill it's laidback uh but yeah it's I'm just going to
skip the ads for now because they're just wearing them out um what was the best best thing you liked about pattia so I would say the best thing to me was the people watching if you go to paa
there are some interesting characters I saw a lot of people from around the world um it's just really interesting people people watching it's super International feeling like almost as much as Bangkok maybe not quite as much as Bangkok
but a lot of different people from around the world you walk around Patty at night you will see something interesting I saw all kinds of characters I was approached by strange people it's just it's a city for people
watching if if you want to see some uh funny interaction uh strange bedfellows then Patty is the city for that [Music] the I I connected well with the Tai people that worked there I'll say that that was something
that really shocked me is that I moved for work so I came from like a town in the midwest or Midsouth in the United States I moved to California for work and I was out of my element right
I wasn't from California my mom was born in California but she left at such a young age not a Californian and I uh I was having some health issues uh I have struggled with some autoimmune issues and I
went to a dermatologist in Pia she spoke great English I need to find I need to link her um because she did a she was just really nice and really good at what she does but we were talking
about changmai because she knew I was planning to go to changmai and we had a great conversation I also was speaking with some of the uh massage therapists I saw when I was there in Patia also speak great
English they're all from changmai so like I feel like half the Thai people that work in Patia are from the north it's very common from PE for people from all over Thailand to move to Patia for job opportunities
there's such a high demand for services in Patia that it outstrips or outpaces the um the local population right the people that are actually from Padia such that you meet people in Paia from all over the country that
had to move there for work and so I really related to them and they speak English well because they're constantly interacting with Western tourists and uh their English levels really surpris me actually um much more English than changmai
in my personal opinion other things about Paia I like the food in Patia if you like International Food then you've got every option in the book in Paia there's just such a big variety of foreigners there I mean
walking down the street I would uh I would regularly pass by an Italian restaurant a Swedish restaurant a Russian a Russian restaurant um German restaurant uh I think there was a Spanish restaurant restaurants of course American style cuisine
Australian rest Australian style cuisine British food anything you can imagine Sushi I there's some great sushi restaurants and Patia the salad place like any kind of Cuisine you want you can have in paa or in JN Tien so
I stayed in jumen a little bit more laid-back compared to paa but still kind of wild I would go back you know I don't know that I could live there long term it's there's kind of an interesting crowd
there like you you do see some uh some of the people you don't want to run into again like um there's some there's some strange characters like I saw a guy that had uh covered in tattoos indicating he's
uh a fan of a certain German leader uh from the 1940s not my scene and so I didn't engage with this person he probably wouldn't like me based on the way I look uh but yeah you know there
are there's PE people of all kinds overall my experience was um decent you know but after a month I you know especially not being somebody who's into the some of the more well-known attractions of Patia I was ready
to go to changai changai even in spite of perhaps not as much English as Bangkok or Pia or the islands um changai is just such a beautiful city I mean it's one of my favorite cities in the world
and uh my six months there were definitely reaffirmed that it's just a country town like it reminds me of the city I grew up in where people are friendly down to earth you they're not the tourism there is
more I don't know how to explain it it doesn't feel as hardcore as patio or Bang where people are hustling hard to make their money and changai just seems more laidback not saying people don't work hard there people
definitely work hard in changai but it didn't seem quite as like hardcore shorttime tourists as some other parts of the country where you're coming in for a week on spring break you're coming in for two weeks on your
yearly vacation and um you're you know they're not as concerned about long-term whereas in changmai I was regular I got to know the ladies that manag my why don't we go up to changm real quick um see here
pulled up changmai here I became a regular at quite a few places there's one that comes up I'll zoom in here let's see hopefully it pops up strange it's here we go Boton so I became a regular at
this restaurant really downto Earth sushi restaurant Tha man who had worked at a sushi had a a sushi chef career in Bangkok and then moved up to shangai to start his own thing fantastic restaurant also was a regular
at mayia mall I'd come to mayia every morning for coffee um where else was I regular oh at this gym um I went too far here um gold gold Hills side of Gym and Fitness this gym really nice
um good value for money I think I was paying around I booked for six month months and it was worked out to like $23 a month I think I paid 5,000 bot for six months so very reasonable yeah
Pat I could go on and on about it's just uh it's a strange city for sure uh unfriendly sto would you rather work in Singapore or back home stoic you know for lifestyle even though I'm I'm going to
contradict myself a bit here because I talked ear about how Singapore wouldn't necessarily be my first preference for lifestyle I would give it a shot for a couple years you know if I could go to Singapore work for
a well-known brand name to put on my resume like a Google Google Singapore or who else has a presence in Singapore Amazon probably has a let me look it up they I'm pretty sure they have an AWS presidents
in Singapore yeah so they've got AWS as a presence in Singapore you know that where it would really add a lot to my resume and I'd earn like an outsized uh income and I get valuable experience also weekend
you know if I had assuming I had a work permit weekends outside of the country weekend down in Indonesia maybe going to Bali for a weekend then it would be an awesome lifestyle Play If I Was purely concerned
about income I think I would technically work out better in the Bay Area uh just just because Bay Area income or salaries wages uh earnings potential is among the highest in the world alongside uh New York City yeah
I'd give it a shot you know if I didn't like it I just trans you know I just probably stick it out until I get to a stopping point and then maybe transfer to the US Branch or apply
for jobs in the US but it would be a lot of leg work it would be a lot of leg work compared to working in Northern California or in New York um let me get caught up here Michael
says yeah I'm coming on the tourist Fe in November not 100% sure if I'm staying in Thailand for a year if I'm going to bounce around southeast Asia on tourist feces and said yeah that's not a bad idea
wait till you get here there to design you may find that you want to go try out some different places nothing wrong with that you'll get a better sense of what you like and what you don't like places
you want to spend more time places you're okay with not coming back to H yeah great idea so sorry guys about when the screen went black I do apologize for that thank you for alerting me to it Gerard
says I'm stunned with the amount of expats that can't speak the native language [Music] uh yeah I mean it's you know it's to be expected Gerard like some of these languages are very what I would call Niche like
and if you learn Tai for example you could put a lot of ter time into learning Tai Tai doesn't really have a lot of applications outside of Thailand um so I love Thailand beautiful country one of my favorite
countries but you know as much tie as I learned which is fairly rudimentary I can't use that uh here in Vietnam so even though I'm just a couple hour flight away or hour and a half flight away all
the effort and the time that I put into um you know uh you know all the time I put into learning the language it's not appliable here in Vietnam and same with Vietnam I could put a lot of
effort into trying to learn Vietnam now Vietnam is is ranked at I think a level six so it's one of the hardest languages you can learn up there with Korean and so you put all this effort into learning
the local language only for it to be irrelevant if you go you know you hop on a plane and go to a neighboring country so it's and it's also valuable for the locals to have transferable experience right so
let's say somebody um their aspiration is to work in the United States which some of my Tha friends have that aspiration they hope to work in the United States at some point if they get their English skill set
then that really makes it um that gives them a strong advantage to being able to move to the United States it's um you know they have to take certain tests to go to the US maybe they're wanting to
work in a corporate setting in the US they have so much more advantages from learning English than we have from learning their local language because they could go to any English speaking country right they learn English they're good
for Canada they're good for the United Kingdom they're good for Australia we learn Thai maybe we'll run into a Thai person in our home country or outside of Thailand but you know it's there's limited uh you know there's
limited usability now do I enjoy learning some basic words absolutely I think it's a lot of fun to see the local spaces light up when you show that respect for their culture for their language you show that appreciation
for something that's unique about their country you have that connection also you surprise them I would catch people in Thailand a lot where I throw out my very very rudimentary tie and you'd see their face just light up
just uh beaming that I'm not just like barking at them in English that I actually really care a lot about um about their country and about their culture and it's uh so I would say you know it's valuable
to learn if you're passionate about it don't necessarily feel bad if you're not um they're going to get a lot of benefits from learning English uh and not just in the immediate I mean they may want to pursue
a long-term career in an industry where English is very helpful and they have curiosity I mean I have a Thai friend and uh she loves practicing English with me like every time we get together she makes it a
point that we do practice English and she tries to get me to help her with her pronunciation so uh some would say oh you know don't don't condescend with the English I don't see it as condescending at all
as I think a lot of people um find Value in learning English regardless of their background Gerard some of those xats can't even speak their own language that's a great Point Tony yeah I mean they um I'm not
here to prick I'm not here to pick on anyone but my Thai friends have told me people from certain English-speaking countries are much harder for them to understand compared to myself I don't know if it's that I've had
to speak for a living in the sales world or that I've uh you know done some English teaching or even here on YouTube but they have told me certain people we just can't understand them even though they speak
English even though they're native speakers their accent is very difficult for us to wrap our head around now part of it may be that I grew up listening to my grandmother speak Japanese so I understand the tonal language
like kind of the way a person speaking a tonal language thinks and I also have spent a lot of time listening to the way that Thai people speak sometimes I just to mess with my Thai friends throw a
tii Accent on my English just to just to like tease them a little bit not to uh once again not to be rude but just to just as a kind of tease to them part Japanese have you considered
buying an Ikea abandoned house to live in to show us Japan yeah I mean it's definitely uh intriguing to me um being part Japanese I would never be accepted as Japan Japanese so that's the tragedy of Japan is
that I would always be regarded as a foreigner um in Japan it's a kind of a binary you're born in Japan you speak Japanese you're culturally Japanese everything about you is Japanese or you're a foreigner so they don't
really perceive somebody who's mixed uh in the same way I think it's changing somewhat with the younger Generations I think more of the younger Generations are experiencing the Western World um they're being exposed to the world outside of
Japan Japan's economy is also struggling where there's more pressure and temptation to move to the UK or move to the United States I've taught English to some Japanese people that told me yeah we want to get out of
here because the economy the long-term prospects at least in the context of our lifetimes the duration of our lifetimes ain't looking so good um so I'd be open to it maybe you know uh hosia if I won the
lottery or you know I had some windfall and I could uh you know and I had the free time I mean it'd be wonderful but and you know I talked to my grandmother about getting a special Visa because
I would actually qualify as since I have a Japanese grandparent and she told me no I'm not going to support that um you don't need to go to Japan you're not going to be accepted and that you know
yeah it was it was a tough conversation because if she signed some paperwork I would actually qualify for like a one-year Visa in Japan I could probably keep like working that if I really wanted to live in Japan
long term and turn that into a longer Visa maybe even get permanent residence um but uh yeah that's just uh kind of where I'm at with um Japan you know it'd be interesting but I want the Visa support
so I knew I'm not just buying this house that I eventually have to ditch because they're telling me hey man you can only come here three months a year and you need to stay out you need to stay
outside of Japan the other nine months a year uh and so um yeah and it's you know you're also like I if I were to live in Japan I don't know how much I'd want to live in the
total rural area I've looked at some newsletters I subscribed to some newsletters that show lists of these houses and you're often quite remote um so they're not as frequently in like Osaka or um Tokio so uh you know
it's one thing to live in urban Japan it's a whole another thing to live in rural Japan where you know you might [Music] be uh surrounded only by people um retiring and you might have probably nobody has English
right so if you're uh trying to have some English dialogue which is much more common in Osaka or Tokyo or even Fukuoka where my grandparents met um it's Japan is much more insular than parts of Southeast Asia Thailand
for example um Thailand people are very warm to foreigners in my experience I had lots of warm and friendly positive interactions throughout the country um Japan they're just I mean Japan is most Japanese that aren't actively trying to
learn English or pursuing a career outside of Japan interested in doing so they're just less concerned with the world outside of Japan and uh less concerned with interacting with foreigners and from what I can tell it's one of
the lonelier countries for foreigners um that could be Chang in maybe it's just my perception maybe it's my own issue of being feeling at times culturally Japanese because I was raised by my grandmother and I feel so influenced
by that but visually not passing now if I shave and I'm spending a lot of time indoors where my skin gets really light people speak fullon to me in Japanese so when I'm in Japan and I shave and
I dress decent I can actually pass for Japanese but my facial hair starts to grow in and I quickly go back to being a gyen um so yeah that's just been my experience in Japan I could you know
at times I could pass but it's as soon as I open my mouth it's obvious I'm or evident that I'm not Gerard says I have a funny feeling that if you did a Blog on Thailand might get you
at least 40 or more views yeah I could do um I could do some more stuff on Thailand I Miss Thailand we'll see how things go in the Philippines so I'm flying to dumag Getti in a week I
plan to stay for several months um it kind of depends on how things go it's you know if I feel like it's too much of a fun atmosphere I may go back to Thailand not that Thailand is not
fun but Thailand can be many different things I find that the Philippines my experiences there are very oriented toward having fun like when I went five years ago just had a blast I mean the whole trip was a
blast I was having so much fun I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to get some of the things done that I needed to get done um because people are just so funloving happy smiling laughing
hey let's go to the beach hey let's go swimming hey let's go on a date hey let's go out here uh and I have like friends there that I really connected well with um if I'm trying to pursue
my education trying to do GMAT prep trying to write a book it's like okay do I want to sit here at my Airbnb on the computer or do I want to go out there to that beautiful ocean and
go swim around and look at the fish or do I want to hop on a ferry to the next Island over and borrow a bicycle and ride it around the island um oh this you know gorgeous woman is
talking to me online do I want to sit here and study or do I want to uh meet up with her on a date and so the Philippines is amazing it's so amazing that it's I think it at
times could be challenging for me to focus we'll see how it goes you know this is my second time to the Philippines maybe some of that uh intense novelty will have subsided I'm also staying in dag Getti for
at least a month so it's not like my last trip where I bounced between three different locations um in the span of a month so yeah um I don't know why it says six years ago by the way
Gold Hill Side Gem and fitness I was there seven months ago six no five months ago um why don't we zoom over to the Philippines here so yeah I'll be staying south of the city um probably about a
25 minute ride from the center of the city I've downloaded the map that's something I recommend by the way everybody um download an offline map of of the city you plan to go to that way if you lose
Wi-Fi if you are unable to get a sim immediately for whatever reason then you've got a copy of the map on your phone and you're able to um you're able to take a look at that without you know
if you lose connection um super super helpful Michael says it's kind of funny a fan of certain German leader Mich go to Southeast Asia I talked to him just to see how he feels about the locals yeah that's
what I was thinking too um Michael I think that's a great point and that could be good content yeah I need to get better about approaching people it's it's Japanese mindset of not wanting to bother or disturb people
but I got to get over that right I mean uh I used to not think that way for whatever reason when I was in Peru I don't know if it's just cultural similarities I don't know if it was
just the weather I don't I don't know what it was I didn't feel strange about approaching or talking to people but um it may have just been the stress of my last job just getting so rejected so much
like is typical in sales that it kind of um I know dissuaded me a bit but I need to get back on it I mean there's a lot of potential interesting content out there uh I do have some
uh stuff lined up with Mike from Mike's Philippine retirement um also Mark With Every Man Has a story also um Paul and I are going to sit down and have a talk I reached out asking about doing um
a some content with him he said why don't we sit down and talk first which is great I wanted to reach out to Paul because I've been watching his content for like five years now and uh I let
him know hey I'll be on your channel because you know I know it's somewhat of a business for Paul I know he doesn't rely on it to pay his bills it's uh but I didn't want to be yet
another Foreigner that sees oh wow cool YouTuber 100K Subs I'll be the most interesting person he's met yet no Paul could meet with anybody any number of people he's uh he's the Godfather of dag Getti I just laugh
at this stuff because it's um it's strange how history repeats itself how we see so many parallels between uh the culture that we're familiar with the history the zist and how he sort of captured the Limelight uh in
his retirement years and he has the personality just working in sales to talk with people um so yeah I'll be sitting down to chat with Paul we may or may not make content I'm happy to sit down and
chat with him I didn't want to just be another person to ask him hey you know what about me like you're so cool let's just you know sit down and chat uh without some tangible benefit to him but
knowing that he's happy to just chat you know he's an interesting guy there's a lot for me to learn from somebody like him with the life experience that he has and the trials and tribulations that he's been through
he he's definitely an interesting character and to some extent knowing about his background he does have kind of a tragic background and uh I'm always interested to get to know people that have experienced these uh different kinds of
tragedy to see how they overcome it right there's a lot I've experienced a lot of tragedy in my life and to see people who are able to overcome it um he seems to be a happy guy from what
I can tell he seems to have put a lot of that stuff in the rearview mirror and has made an interesting life for himself and so there's a lot for me to learn from him I'd love to interview
him and share some of his Insight with my audience one of the things that I would ask Paul I need to make a list of questions just in case we do line something up but what would be your
top insight to share with uh young expats or young people who are younger than yourself that want to pursue the lifestyle that you have here that they see you've been able to go from difficult situations back in America
to now you're building a house and you are married and you've got this vibrant friends circle um yeah just just kind of getting his perspective there's no prescriptions right like you can't copy no can copy none of us
can copy what Paul did and end up with the same result that he has but there's a lot that he has to to offer in terms of knowledge where I think a lot of the guys that he talks
to are the same age as him and the same or similar position in life as him and there's a whole lot of guys that are watching his channel thinking I want to be there when I get to his
uh seniority right I want to be living that life that maybe not exactly in the Philippines maybe not in do meetti but they there's a lot they can learn [Music] to pursue that in their own country and maybe
just parts of it you know maybe they don't want a relationship maybe they prefer to be a committed Bachelor but they still want to be um you know they still want to have just that calm demeanor and you
can see the stress like in his face that he's experienced but that he's overcome a lot of that so yeah I think Paul has a lot of insight and I'm looking forward to meeting him thanking him for all
the entertainment I can't tell you how many times I had a crap day at work in the west and I got off work and loaded up YouTube and oh wow look Paul put something up and watched it and
I could forget about my problems for an hour or a half hour and see what kind of funny situation he'd gotten himself into what kind of lesson he had to share with the audience I need to just go
back through before I get to doag Getti and watch some of his content from the last five years because it's really helped me to get through a lot of difficult times like in my life just um seeing that
he's able to to have overcome some of the same things that I've gone through and um you know he talks about loneliness in the west which I think is something that we skip over a lot earlier tonight I
had a conversation with Tony and stoic and uh we were talking about about loneliness and and um and some things like around that topic but I think that it's not often talked about how like we were talking about
loneliness in the context of living abroad and it's it's a different kind of loneliness than the loneliness we experienced back home and so it feels like for some of us we're trading one kind of loneliness the loneliness and
isolation of working a highly demanding job where our life and our identity revolves around that job um you know were were unable to invest as much time in interpersonal relationships dating um Hobbies whatever it may be to pivoting
to where the it's a different kind of loneliness where there may be a language barrier we may we're missing these relationships we've invested a lot of time into and um so you know it's like is loneliness just inherently
part of the experience of being a longtime traveler being an expat some of it could be alleviated I think with a relationship but even that's not in like an identical replacement or a substitute and I want to talk
to Paul about that as well just about his experience or perception of loneliness how that's changed um he seems very happy are there any days where he does feel that he's talked about how there are times where or
months where he and May don't leave the house a lot um does he you know feel lonely at those times I imagine you know he's alluded to having a difficult childhood which I think a lot of people can
relate to um is some of that tied in and we don't have to talk about it on camera I don't want to put him on the spot I'm not there to embarrass him or to uh uncover old dog
new tricks H but to better understand the man behind the camera the man behind the lenss friendly stok says I feel like Singapore is a good balance of career building and you close to a few southeast Asia hotspots
you could do weekend trips yeah I think it would be awesome to do for a year or two and who knows maybe something like that will open up uh a couple of things related to that stoic uh one
the person that recruited me for my last job her she and her father actually lived in Singapore for a while he had a career there he lives in Thailand now uh and he loves Thailand so kind of just
a small world thing the other aspect of that is my former cooworker he's living in he's actually living in Greece now uh he's working in multifaceted business Ro in Greece uh I won't mention his name just respect his
privacy but he and his family actually lived in Singapore so his dad had some kind of business role in Singapore and they were based there for several years and so he's gotten to see he's one of those people
that he has traveled so much he does not brag about it and that's when you know somebody is well traveled when they don't brag about it and when travel is not as it doesn't I think he still enjoys
traveling like when we work together he did a trip to Peru uh but it's not quite to the same magical feeling that um people who haven't traveled as much to the same extreme of like he's probably seen you
know he's seen a lot lot of places and to the extent that it was I think he almost didn't want to talk about it because it would be more isolating or more dividing then it would be something that
is a shared experience right because most Americans don't have passports most Americans uh have not been outside of the United States so the contrast of that somebody who has an EU passport um somebody who's lived in Singapore like
very very atypical compared to the experience of the majority of Americans uh Gerard says how are you with Nat you know I don't think I've tried Nat my grandma hates it she hates Nat um I don't know exactly
why I don't know if they just had to eat it because of you know the challenges and and um I'm open to trying it I'm not opposed to trying it at all I've definitely come around on some stuff
I didn't think I would enjoy there's um I'm trying to think of a specific example I won't do balud that's something I'm not going to eat it's just not appealing to me um maau says what made you decide
to go to dumag Getti City in the Philippines as opposed to other places in the country say Palawan toai City or bagio city um so great question maau uh with Palawan it um palan is over here it's it's
like I I went to um a different place in the Philippines and I'm probably gonna kick myself later for talking about it but cigan island is incredible and it's not as well known as Palawan and so uh my
concern with Palawan is that it's so popular that if I go there I'll be surrounded by tourists I know like it's maybe a hipster mentality I want to be the only there cigan gets uh significant amount of tourists
by the way like when I was there there's a Swedish family staying at my Resort um I went to an Italian restaurant over here by cigan airport L vaita full of Western tourists when I flew from cigan airport
here and that's a fun airport to fly out of because you fly you Bas it's kind of a short Runway and you fly and then you lift off right over the water so you're you're going straight up um
and so on that flight the majority of the people on that flight were Western people but I just feel like I would enjoy that a bit more than a Palawan um I I will go to palan eventually it's
definitely on my radar as terms of a place to go but it's um you know it's just so much more wellknown it's kind of similar as far as like place like borai is concerned I just know you know
lots and lots of people will go there and the difference being I would actually consider living in a place like cigan where I don't think I could live in Palawan um it you know I lived in I spent
a month in Krabby in Thailand and living in some of these places that are transient it's like traveling within traveling where most of the people coming through or I'm thinking more like longterm and so if I try to
live in a place where most people are coming through for a week uh maybe a weekend I think it's a place i' struggled to build relationships um nothing wrong with going there I think they're gorgeous worldclass destinations I
think they'll continue to be super popular uh but it it kind of compounds my feeling of loneliness where in cigan I met a lot of people that live in cigan their population's about 75,000 and so I would keep
interacting with the same people over and over again um which is something I really enjoy and when it comes to bagio I am curious about bagio uh I'd like to do I don't know if I'll I'll make it
this time but I want to do something where I hit a bunch of different spots in Lone uh and it may happen this time if I take my GMAT test in Lone because uh Manila is the only place
in the Philippines that offers the GMAT test it has to be proctored you have to be observed and you have to have you know it signed off on and whatnot where I do say like a a month of
Manila sort out my GMAT and then before I go back to try to you know start my MBA program assuming that all that lines up I don't know yet there's a long time between now and then if I
go down that path um you know I'd like to check out Angelus it's kind of like the Philippines version of Patia I'd like to check out Tarlac actually one of my new subscribers he joined us uh last stream
which was Thursday night he's actually in Tarlac and he said you uh please come up here to Tarlac check it out we're very welcoming people up here it's very enjoyable and uh what else so bag would be included
so it might be a situation where I do like a trip maybe you know let's say a month in Manila or maybe a week in Manila Angeles for a week Tarlac for a week and then work my way
up bagio for a week and vegon I want to do vegon because a ton of people have uh been going up to vegon it's got this Spanish style architecture that reminds me of Latin America and that's gorgeous I
miss Latin America at times and I love the beauty um the kind of the Spanish colonial style the and also I mean even like colonial style aside I mean it looks like parts of Spain like reminds me of
Sevilla where I went um early last year to Tai I think uh let's see here let's back up um to Tai I think one of my subscribers lives near to gai or he's in I think he's in tanza
he's not in toai let's pull toai so yeah he's not quite down there I did uh I did talk to a Filipina online briefly and and this isn't to gu Tai but she told me I should go to
Batangas so she and her family live in Marikina City which is east of Manila but she told me like her family's originally from Batangas and I should check out Batangas which looking at these photos absolutely agree with her
it's so beautiful but um yeah feel free guys to chime in that was a great question by the way Macau streets very thoughtful um I I should answer this question because I I asked about why I wouldn't go
to those those other places do MTI interesting for several reasons we'll come back to dumag Getti here I didn't go to dumag Getti on my last trip so my first trip to the Philippines I landed in um well
I landed in SIU and then I had to transfer no I landed in Manila no I landed in SIU and I had to transfer to domestic terminal so I came to SIU from uh from Cambodia from penom pen
Cambodia had to transfer from the international terminal to the domestic terminal flew down to kagay and deoro it's an industrial city I have a former virtual assistant former employee now friend of mine who lives in Kayan deoro top
priority for that trip was to meet him so I met him uh spent some time with him and his family spent Christmas with him and his family and then um came up to cigan Island and then I finished
up in SEO so I had the option to go to D meetti but I was on a limited timeline and uh I felt like Dum MTI has a ton of foreigners this time I want to do um I
want to be around more locals for more immersive experience this time it's like okay now I've had a chance to watch these vloggers and doti for a while sort out the ones I like and the ones I uh
some of the ones I don't care for as much um you know befriended some of them and there's a lot of opportunities there to uh interact with foreigners that doesn't exist elsewhere and I used to think like hey
I'll just have local friends the older I get the more I can appreciate the need to make other expat friends um Healthcare needs for example if you need health care talking to other expats is a great way to
sort that out if you uh if you need to find uh different services and you you know like if I needed to hire a lawyer or if I needed to hire a builder um now we're looking far out
in the future you know if I got married to a woman in the Philippines wanted to build a house you know it's you're talk when you're talking dealing with a foreigner yes there are bad foreigners out there yes
there are scammers but having these connections gives you perspective and shifts your shifts the angle at which you're looking at your problems um plus I mean it's just seems like a nice city I mean it's got man University
which is uh you know really great University I'm partial to college towns because I think they're often really vibrant you've got a lot of young ambitious people that are trying to move up in the world trying to improve
their circumstances trying to build a career and um yeah so so that's what's appealing about dag Getti also you've got siki horror which seems cool like I'd like to check out sikor that's a fairy right away also the
snorkeling like so I'm they have a lot of dive shops here I'm not really a diver I tried it in Mexico it was terrifying maybe I'd change my mind if I tried it again but for now I'm more
of a snorkler and being able to go snorkeling uh swimming in the water looking at the fish it just s seems like a wonderful option um now I know that's not specific to doag Getti you have those experiences
the Philippines but having the access to the water but then also the town the Western conveniences you've got Robinson Robinson's you got Hypermart you've got kangs you've got quite a few Western conveniences the city's also not too big
like if you've spent any time in SIU for example SIU is a big city it can feel a bit congested a bit heavy with traffic at times um that's a good point Tony that's a good point okay I'm
going to do a video that's I'm adding that to the list um places you have been in the world where being a Westerner helps you in social [Music] interaction versus places where it doesn't help at all uh places
that it doesn't help versus places that it helps um I would say in particular it's not going to help you being a foreigner is not going to help you if you're in a economically challenged area if you're in
a country going through an economic crisis I think that's where it could be a liability U you know at times you feel that in some uh some places in the developing world where uh they feel like if you're
a foreigner you're rich like if you can afford a plane ticket here and um you know you're capable of taking off work and you don't have any family here then you're loaded uh and so even if you don't
feel loaded right like um most of us probably feel like middle class Western people even if you don't feel like really well off then all of a sudden you become a Target uh I think that meden is is
an Colombia is an example of that where I love Colombia um I have several friends in Colombia but uh when I was there they were constantly warning me like hey be careful don't even walk six blocks back to
your hotel for my apartment even though we're in A very upscale neighborhood in bulat now do call a cab even though it's just six blocks call a cab uh when I'm in medine and we can we'll pivot over
to medine here when I'm in medine the hotel um where where is it um estadio okay so the hotel owner he keeps the door locked to the outside this kind of I didn't really think about at the time
because I was just happy to somewhere interesting and it was also a great time economically for medine I think things have turned down a little bit since then but he would keep the door to the exterior to the
outside locked even though we're in a fairly what appears to me to be a fairly nice neighborhood uh let's see Kasa here's yeah uh no that's not it um maybe it is it no I don't think that was
it um we're we're um we're on I feel like it was avenita Colombia and there Colombia and there's um there's a military base anyway he's keeping the door to the outside Street locked so every time I want to
leave or come back to the hotel they're having to unlock it to let me out and then when I come back they're looking out before they let me in so so that didn't give me a great feeling I
felt like there the threat of robbery or crime is so significant here that they cannot just leave the door unlocked um also I heard about foreigners uh in El pbl which is like the upscale neighborhood in medine over
I pull it up here l so this is the high-end neighborhood and and medine I heard about foreigners like out in front of their hotels um guys rolling up and taking all their stuff like with Force um now
none of this happened to me I did have a sketchy kind of situation where I had a bunch of kids approach me in the sewer Americana neighborhood sewer let's see here that's man these names are um here yeah
so I was in this neighborhood and I happened to be taking some video and I had these kids approach me demanding that I come with them they kept telling me come with us come with us and I'm like
no no no well their expressions turned to anger then they start cursing me out and following me and I ended up in an auto repair shop and they finally just like curs me out and walk away so I
don't know what they were trying to do I don't know what they wanted um but that was sketch now I other than that nothing major happened to me in Colombia but a lot of these experiences you know my
friends warning me about safety um you know it's uh yeah Colombia is definitely going through some challenges uh and as far as places where it helps you know I think as an example in the um [Music] H it's
hard to it's hard for me [Music] to let me think on that Tony um oh D hey great to see you haven't uh chatted in a while I also think expat friends can be very helpful when traveling vloggers
like old dog provide a wealth of information on how to navigate situations yeah I mean he's a success story in terms of he's been in uh dumag Getti for like seven years now six years so he's done doing
a lot of things right to have that kind of longevity to not have gone broke and gone back home to not have had uh you know run-ins with the legal you know system like he's he's definitely making good
decisions it seems like every year he looks happier and less stressed uh than the year before I mean when he first got there I could tell the guy had been through some stuff and now it's like wow he's
like Aging in Reverse uh wellp paid Tha worker earns around $15 per day um Tony says in my experience many middle class educated locals in Cusco showed interest in me as a foreigner open to Friendship asked my opinion
on things Mexico City no one cared that I was from the north the educated well-off peruvians I met held Gringo in high regard and would invite me into their social world yeah Tony uh I was shocked at how
different Peru is from Colombia uh because you know in in the states like we get this impression that Latin America is a monolith uh and it couldn't be further from the truth when I was in Cusco I felt
welcomed into a number of different Social Circles um you know even with peruvians like this Peruvian woman I um spent some time with you know she would invite me to her popup restaurant and she' introduce me to her
friends and introduced me to the musicians and they were very warm um you know I don't know if I accessed like some of that as much though as you did Tony because like I noticed when I made the
friends from Venezuela um we would hang out with other expats as a group so I met them through a Belgian uh woman and then they introduced me to their friends from Colombia um but it's I don't know and
I don't know if it was just like that specific group um I noticed my buddy from India who has the Indian restaurant in Cusco he was interacting a lot with other Indians um you know it's probably a fa
small neit community as far as like people from India living in Peru but things may have changed I do want to go back back there you know it may be uh this was around like this was I went
right after the pandemic uh in fact I landed in CCO like within a week of them lifting the pandemic restrictions so it may be people were more concerned about avoiding illness um than they are than they were in
the time that you visited and that they might be right now like now you know they may have uh collectively felt like hey you know what pandemic that was in the past we're moving on from that we're going
to uh be more open now I did interact with some peruvians at this Festival I went to um this woman intro uh introduced me to she was like hey come up to this Festival I'm doing a popup there
and I got to interact with people there one guy his mother lived in Texas for a while so he was half Peruvian and he was really interesting um he had uh he definitely had like an interesting perspective having
lived in the United States and having and then moved back he did seem a little bit frustrated he told me that his grandparent started the first major grocery now I don't I'm taking this with a grain of salt
this may be just totally fictitious um I gathered from his facial expressions he was being honest but you know he didn't he didn't ask me for money he didn't prompt me to like exchange contact information I don't even
remember his name but he told me that his grandparents started the first grocery store in Peru and then it was seized during a military coup um so I don't know if if that's a Common Thread there I don't
know if that was just a oneoff um but you know I did I did see I did sense some kind of hidden uh pain there and then also like yeah Peru is interesting I do feel like it's it's
uh the diversity there is a little bit different than the diversity in Colombia where in per in Colombia it seemed like the divisions were more neighborhood by neighborhood in Peru it seemed more like the Lima versus outside of
Lima kind of di divide uh where people outside of Lima felt some kind of solidarity and um yeah I mean I think the whole country is beautiful I love my time in Lima I love my time in Cusco
I think that they're um they're different they're different in in unique and interesting ways I'd like to go back and check out aripa that's really a priority next time I make it to Peru let's pull up aripa aripa
is closer to the Ocean than um Cusco although still like probably let's see how long it takes to get to molo um oh God that's by walking okay two and a half hours so a weekend trip maybe not
necessarily a day trip probably a little bit further I guess you could stop and matarani um so it's not as close but it's you're still getting Seafood there I mean they they can still throw some stuff on a
truck um and get it up to aripa but I'm interested in aripa um interested also in the north Trio I want to check out Trio and uh let's look at these photos it's such a beautiful like the colors
in Peru are so interesting it it's one of the most colorful countries that I've ever been to it's so it the Landscapes are beautiful and then the colors of the buildings themselves are beautiful I miss Peru for sure
it's a country I could definitely see myself living in at some point in my life um the Landscapes are so dramatic and then you have colors of the buildings and the food is amazing it's um it just feels
like another planet aak cucho seems to be the Lesser known sister of Cusco Less almost no tourism Gringo's ref around the edges and super uh quote unquote authentic um let's pull up aaucha here oh aako okay yeah let's
let's take a look here at aako this looks a lot like Cusco but I can see what you mean as far as less touristic um seeing this lady here in what looks to be a potentially a Town Square
uh in Cusco this scene would have probably a lot of vendors and also a lot of tourists walking through I can see what you're talking about Tony that if you're there and you want to have potentially a less
well you know if you're okay this looks a little bit more lively but if you want to have uh an experience with perhaps fewer tourists you want to be able to move a bit more slowly like people in
cusa are working hard um they I found people to be friendly and willing to have conversation but there was that element of like hey we've got to get this bus going or we you know we've got to embark
on a tour we've gotta I do things because that's how people are making their bread and butter in a place that is perhaps a little bit less touristic maybe you could have slower conversations you could uh talk to
folks and and this is gorgeous like the it's interesting to me how similar it looks to Cusco and yet it's uh it's definitely not Cusco the layout of the city is uh very similar probably not as much to
do there but more real than overly touristic Cusco um it has a plaza de armis a less Grand than Cusco and it's super indigenous yeah I definitely uh quite a few of the people that I met in Cusco
especially in the city center were like half indigenous half Spanish and they were not afraid to tell me about that either um they were very much proud of their uh Heritage whereas you uh yeah let me I'm gonna
pull up to watch later Tony after this stream Joe walking [Music] video because I'm curious to see some more areas like that to Branch out from ausco when I go back it's uh it's a cool City and I
want to go see all my friends but I want to do more exploring there because it's it's just so interesting I it's I think it's the ancient history I think it's just feeling like you're connected to something that's
I mean uh you older than the history of the United States now I know there's individual communities within the Americas like California used to be part of Mexico but older than the modern iteration of Canada as well um
so yeah very like very interesting um this is beautiful okay I I don't know if you can I don't know if this is safe to take like a kayak or canoe but I this is incredible it looks like
uh Southern California without all the people this is so beautiful man like thank you for telling me about this Tony I'd heard the name aako show but if if it's not a friend um telling me about it then
it just there's so many places the names all kind of blend together but actually stopping to take a look at it um yeah this looks just like the pla armis but it's it's beautiful the Landscaping is gorgeous it's
definitely on my radar now I have to um make note of it let's see how uh so it is uh it is much closer to Lima I guess what you would do um Lima I guess what you'd probably
need to do to get to aako I don't know if they have flights there is you uh oh wow okay picho they have actually a place called pishko of course the famous drink in Peru is the pishko sour
maybe you take a bus from Lima uh to there and that's you know that that's kind of the trade-off right is that maybe a little bit harder to let me pull up maps actually um I'm Cur uh or
flights let me check flights Lima oh you can fly there so they have an airport okay awesome that's really good to know um thank you for calling this to my attention Tony I had no idea that you could
actually fly to aako it feels totally disconnected from the West yeah I believe it it looks just based on the uh we can see based on the photographs I mean this lady's wearing some very traditional clothing you don't
see like we can zoom in here yeah I mean it appears to be like a very very much a local Vibe which sounds really cool it sounds like perhaps a less material oriented version of Cusco like when I
was in Cusco I definitely got the sense that uh I don't know if it's hipster Vibe is the right word but like there's a lot I like about Cusco but you got the sense the people in Cusco are
very much exposed to the outside world like people know um you know people know what nice things are um not the people there and aako don't but there is more Western influence yeah there you go um it feels
somewhat connected to the West that's a good way to put it I don't want to demean it um I know that you know any I know that everybody wants nice things um anywhere you go in the world people
can appreciate having certain luxuries I was surprised the woman that I was talking to in Cusco she had the latest Flagship iPhone like I'm uh I'm running with this you know SE like the budg iPhone and she's rocking
the I think at the time was the i4 iPhone 14 pro Max so definitely um yeah the local so yeah yeah the there's a kind of back and forth between Lima and uh aaku show yeah I that's definitely
a thing I mean I remember watching uh like TV from Lima when I was in Cusco and just being like you know I was in this restaurant in this Ceviche shop in Cusco and I think Cusco gets it
to some extent probably not quite to the same extent as um aak cucho but let's come back to Cusco really quick it um I was at this cevich shop it's probably not going to pop up for me here
give it a just a [Music] chance it's probably not going to pop up for me right now it's not going to come to mind but I was in this Ceviche shop and they uh they had like TV show
from Lima and it was just a very stark contrast between the more conservatively dressed people in C and the people on the screen who are Lima who are like dancing and you know more perhaps Western in presentation and
so I think that would be to an even greater extent in aak cucho we can come back to aako here um no let's see they give me street [Music] view huh um having a little trouble getting street view
pulled up um where are we here um oh there we go okay uh maybe um oh there we go oh yeah yeah I see what you're saying now Tony it definitely um it's definitely a different vibe from Cusco
like it definitely looks more like local and um more of a working City I guess you could say Plaza day RMS um yeah I mean I I think um I think if we were in the plaza armis of
Cusco you'd see a lot of Western tourists where here you just don't see that NOP it's not wanting to let me move around here quite as much let's see oh here we go um okay switches to nighttime view
but yeah okay that's yeah you can definitely see it it reminds me of kagay and deoro a bit like Kagan deoro is not a touristic City and when you go out in CD you don't see very many foreigners
at all and uh Jake Hey Jake welcome uh good to see you on here it's uh yeah I'm hoping your your travels are going well Jake it was great to Great to connect and man I'm a little bit
envious of Jake he actually got to see CM reap recently and got to experience the magic of Anor wat gorgeous world class um wonder of the world really an incredible an site and place I hope to go so
yeah I'm I think it's awesome um yeah we're taking a look at Peru jakeob Tony and I for some reason like on a regular basis we end up back to our discussions of Peru it's such an interesting place
one thing that uh one person I don't know if you're familiar Tony you may enjoy his content Paul Ros Rosy Rosy he's based in the uh Peruvian rainforest and he does some interesting content he was on Lex fredman's
podcast recently and he's been based there for a while he's trying to do okay you might really enjoy him uh I I've watched some of his stuff listen to some of his stuff there's so much content out there
it's hard to keep track of it all uh he was on uh I think it was on Joe Rogan Experience somewhat recently um I mixed feelings about Joe uh but he does some interesting stuff he's in the conservation
space he's trying to increase ecotourism there he talks a lot about his experiences in the jungle uh sometimes encountering uncontacted tribes talking about some of the dangers associated with that just about the raw experience in the jungle about
just he he's really like he takes adventuring to a whole new level I uh I hope to see some of the things that he's seen someday I don't know if it'll ever happen but he's got some he's got
some real guts like yeah has its own subculture historic Arts and Music and food Styles while Cusco is influenced by all the forers and feels somewhat connected to the West Ucho feels totally isolated from the West that's the
way it's looking to me like you're in a Peruvian City for peruvians as opposed to like Cusco which is a Peruan City somewhat for foreigners right like for international tourists um you know there's English is spoken very commonly
in Cusco I was actually shocked at the level of English that I encountered there and yeah the Hipster influence in Cusco is somewhat offut into some yeah I could see some people people um you know may not be
their jam um no yeah no fancy Fusion restaurants or TCH drinks yeah you don't you don't see that that's something that like on the plaza de armis in Cusco you know people are paying a premium for the real
estate there and let's see here and so those restaurants they're trying to recoup that those rental costs and it uh you know here I imagine the rent is probably uh not quite as expensive oh that's a nice view
yeah it looks like these these buildings may not even be uh some of them may not even be restaurants I got to research that Tony I'm going to do some checking uh some digging around online to learn more
about aako aaucha looks like parts of Bolivia many would find it Stark harsh and Bleak yeah the only people like I well there's a few people two instances come to mind one of my friends from middle school a
guy named Luke uh I don't mind mentioning his name I haven't run into him in a really really long time he spent several months in Bolivia and he loved it this was a few years ago I saw his
pictures on Facebook he's not really active on Facebook but he seemed to really enjoy it the other people I know that like uh Bolivia are mountain climbers so I'm in touch with uh like acquainted with some mountain climbers
and they really like being um based in laaz I think because there's one there's a lot of climbs there it's the highest EST elevation city in the world uh High highest elevation capital city in the world it's it's
maybe not the highest elevation city in the world but I think it's the highest altitude capital and they like being based there because I think they're able to stay acclimated to a high altitude and still get some Urban
conveniences but I mean you're absolutely on the money as far as it being kind of Stark I mean it's it's slim pickings up there I I can't imagine it's it's easy to grow much of anything up there I
know also it's probably quite cold um cold and windy uh preny Dusty as well it's it's tough like I you know when I went to Peru I thought Peru like Cusco was that but now I'm starting to better
understand that uh in some ways Cusco is like half and half you're getting a strong taste of that high altitude world but you're also getting a a lot of Comforts and you're getting a lot of history and culture
right there's some pretty bleak places that there may be some history there but because it's not super hospitable people didn't really stick around to build like a museum or uh you know build the kind of things that make
Cusco so interactive right like it's not in Cusco it's not oh here's this dirt where something happened it's like no here's this place where people built this beautiful structure and you can still see the structure sure um so
it's yeah it's incredible for sure hardly any videos to people traveling to aako harder to find info yeah that makes perfect sense it's um it's interesting to me that they even have flights there like I I bet those
flights look different than the flights to Cusco right I bet you're seeing a lot more people flying home to their home Province maybe they moved to Lima for work and they're they're flying back to Ucho to see friends
or to see family maybe on the holidays they're going back like for Christmas I noticed some of the Christmas decorations they had here but um let's see yeah I I I hope that when you're making it back to
um Peru Tony that you're able to uh check out aako if that's uh something that's you know on your radar I think you'd get a lot out of visiting it um gota stretch I've been chatting for so long
I I think that it's a place that Tony I think you'd appreciate even more having spent significant amount of time in Cusco where you could actually like contrast like uh you know compare and contrast and and feel like
I don't know I think if I spent time in Ucho I think I would appreciate Cusco but it would also I don't know there's I think there's interesting like space there to compare and to contrast and like figure
out okay this is the impact of Tourism like obviously in Cusco um locals are more connected to the outside world uh on the other hand they're also more influenced by the outside world entertainment pop culture attitudes uh all
these different aspects um d uh does a t typical Peruvian have a good standard of living um I think it depends on where you're at in the country um you know Lima is the home of the World Bank
uh let's see here no the world bank's headquartered in DC I think Lima is the um Latin American like home of the World Bank and there's uh there's there's definitely a lot of business opportunities in lima lima has
grown rapidly so much so that people have built um their own kind of towns on the outskirts of Lima there's you know it's comparable Peru is comparable to all the Latin American countries they struggle with the geographical limitations
right because you know something that isn't discussed as much when it comes to economic development in Latin America is that there's huge mountains everywhere right so if you've got a mass if you're in a super mountainous place it's
going to be harder to do agriculture you're it's going to be in some places they're very dry like lima is somehow dry and is is somehow a foggy desert uh which I think it's like one of the only
places in the world that had that's a foggy desert it doesn't it took me a long time to wrap my brain around it but you see I mean you see that it's the outskirts are Sandy and then you
see the fog rolling in so it's uh there's some real challenges there in terms of development that don't face North America to the same extent that being said I mean like it's uh you know it seemed like people
a lot of the people I interacted with had some opportunity I mean certainly in a the tourism sector is very big in Cusco and in Lima I mean Lima has like a world famous dining uh scen um several
three Michelin star restaurants like even a random hole in the wall in Lima to me felt like a world class uh dining experience I mean even some random places I would find in the city would be fantastic uh
not just Latin Cuisine not just Peruvian cuisine but International I mean some I had some fantastic Japanese food uh in Lima and also in Cusco they'd use local ingredients in Cusco uh with Japanese Styles like the sushi there
was fantastic I mean uh Peru to me like it I don't know I liked it lot I felt like I felt like [Music] there there's some optimism there um it was Lively and happening um it it's hard for
me to say right because in the US where I'm from it has arguably the highest standard of living in the world but also tons of people are in debt and can't afford an emergency so I I don't know
where to balance that where where in Peru a lot of people could lean on their families for help or support I didn't you know I don't get that pressure in my home country so Center of living like if
you measure it off sheer GDP you're going to get one picture where if you look at the relationships that people have the social capital that people have then I think it's a different conversation um yeah I think it's
a different conversation Tony says you and I talked about coming home from Cusco and having no one to talk about it well there would be no one to talk about aak cucho to you'd have to keep it your
to your own Hearts and Thoughts I absolutely agree with that Tony auko seems like a um a a place that you would You' share your experience with very very few other people and I noticed too like Vagabond Dew
spent some time in Peru he I think he went to aripa and Lima and I think he went to Cusco and that was it he he did not go to aako so he was primarily focused on the big
cities and didn't you know make it to aako I think it could be a great place like if you you want that immersion probably a great place to practice your Spanish right people are not going to be probably
are probably less likely to engage you in English um unlike in Cusco where people are interacting with so many Western tourists then um they're speaking plenty of English but I will say I'm starting to lose my voice so
I'm gonna wind down here in the next five minutes it's been a fantastic stream everyone thank you so much for the support if you haven't yet uh give us a thumbs up it helps boost Us in the YouTube
algorithm also comment if you're watching this on replay let us know what you think about some of the places that we talked about would you go to some of these places are you concerned like about going to some
of the more off the- Beaten Track places um do you have any travel plans it's always fun to have these discussions um but yeah any um any thoughts like I on what we discussed today I think it's been
a great conversation we learned awn about a lot of different places I never would have really looked into aako so I'm super glad you brought it up Tony and it's uh yeah it's definitely making me I think Thailand
is a home for me but I I think also Peru is a home for me such a beautiful country stunning scenery stunning backdrops um a land of many contrasts like I remember uh taking the steps and this is
a great point to wrap up on coming over here to Lima remember the not this um here we go this should be it well they don't okay yeah I remember coming down here and being on the beach and
watching people surf and then going back up here in the contrast of going into like a uh you know a modern shopping district here in mea Flores um San Gabriel San Cedro um it's uh it's just a very
it's an Eclectic City seeing the Japanese architect architecture seeing the Chinese grocery store actually uh one of the places that I really enjoy and I don't know if it'll pop up here for us there's a super Nik so
this is actually a Japanese grocery store in Lima um and so I went there and actually had some Japanese uh goodies and they actually have a a lot of products imported from Japan and the ladies working there with
Japanese peruvians just such a such an interesting experience to feel like you're stepping into Japan but you're really far away from Japan here um D says I'm really excited to follow your adventures in the Philippines how long will
you be there D I plan to stay at least a month but more likely I'll be there for a little bit tough to gauge I want I'd like to stay through Christmas if I don't get a job offer
by Christmas uh I may go back to Thailand in January um kind of plan it by ear I do miss changm uh Jake's right now in changai and I'm thinking man like changai is such a cool City but
uh yeah I'd like to stay through Christmas if I don't get a job offer between now and then I am interviewing full transparency D with jobs back in the States you know it's not it's not ideal right I
I'd like to keep traveling but there's definitely some opportunities for me back in the states that I can't pass up uh but yeah uh at the shortest I'll be there for a month at the longest through uh January
but yeah I'm gonna go ahead and wind down we've been going for two and a half hours I really appreciate everybody's support and watching the live stream you know it I'm just shocked that have this much support it's
just so so greatly appreciated and it encourages me to keep making content I'm uh I'm working on a video right now what I love about Vietnam I hope to finish filming it probably Monday I'll probably have to wait
till Monday to finish filming it but um thanks so much everyone like I said I hope you all have a lovely weekend ahead I hope you're having a lovely weather wherever you are in the world and we'll see
you soon
